Melanoma
Lowell B. Taubman MD
The following is the unedited conversation with Peter Grimes of
UPN FOX TV.
Q: What is your knowledge
about Cancer?
A: I do not claim to be an expert in Dermatology or Cancer, but I
am a Board Certified Internist which is a specialist in Internal
Medicine, and I also completed an extra 2 years of training in
Geriatric Medicine.
Q: You are also a big
Reggae fan. Did you follow the Bob Marlet Story? Please tell me
about your knowledge.
A: I first heard Bob Marley in college, and I was asked to write
an article about Bob Marley's Cancer/Malignant Melanoma. Some of
the issues I addressed were genetic transmission, black vs. white
incidence, could the CIA have given or transmitted the Cancer,
could the Melanoma have been injected into Bob, and finally could
trauma (hurting your toe) cause Melanoma.
Q: How common is Melanoma
in a black person?
A: There are different types of Melanoma. Bob had a form which
was exceedingly rare. 7% of Melanomas are the Lentigenous type,.
Bob had the classical type of Melanoma that is found in black
people. Bob's father was white and that was an issue with many
people. Bob's Melanoma was the type that is found in people of
African descent. His Melanoma presented as a macule or spot on
his great toenail. This spot can look like a black and blue spot
and frequently they are neglected. An individual might think that
they might have inadvertently stubed their toe. Bob Marley's nail
partially came off while playing soccer in France, and was
treated by a physician there.
Q: What is the treatment
for this sort of thing, and did he follow the treatment?
A: I should say that I have not seen the medical records, nor
have spoken to the physician. Bob's Melanoma was seen and treated
by a physician who probably used Lidocaine for pain control. The
nail was removed. I cannot say whether the Melanoma was diagnosed
or misdiagnosed appropriately, because there are some flat
Melanomas. If the Melanoma was under the fingernail, it can grow
down much worse than originally anticipated. The hard nail acts
as a barrier, so the skin cancer grows downwards. I cannot tell
what advise the physician gave Bob Marley at that time.
Q: So you cannot speak
with any authority on what the treatment was or how he should
have been treated.
A: Well, in the later stages I could. Most likely I cannot say
when the exact diagnosis was made in 1977, but from what I have
read amputation was sugested and was refused by Bob. Once again,
speculation, based on Bob's beliefs, and Bob's following of the
Bible, amputation was not in agreement with Rastafarian
doctrine.
Q: Well, you know it has
been suggested by his manager, Don Taylor, who has published a
book, that the French physician injected Bob with Melanoma, and
30 days after he received the injection the diagnosis was
confirmed as malignancy. How long after this did he die?
A: Approximately 3 years, Melanoma sometimes is a slow
progressive disease, and can have a 50 %mortality rate despite
adequate treatment.
Q: What do you think
about this? Can someone inject Melanoma into someone?
A: Well, to the best of my knowledge, it is not possible. I will
try to simplify this. If I give you a piece of my tissue to you,
your body will reject it. So you cannot take Cancer from one
person and inject it into another person. Let me clarify that.
It's sort of like a heart transplant. For immunological reasons,
the body would reject the implanted tissue/heart. Science has now
figured out a way to block the tissue rejection with strong
medications.
In 1977 when Bob developed his Melanoma, tissue rejection and
transplantation was a new field of science. If Bob was injected
with Melanoma his body would not have recognized it, thereby it
would be walled off so it would not spread.
Q: It is known that
Joseph Issles had Nazi connections. What is your scientific
opinion about Nazi medical research.
A: That is another issue, and not pertinent to Bob's Melanoma.
Bob's disease was rapidly progressing, and it was not treated in
regular 20th century fashion. Let me just state for the record, I
am not opposed to alternative medicine. Bob was treated with a
holistic, conservative treatment, and Bob paid the price. First
of all, it is not possible to give cancer through a shot.
Holistic care probably did not help Bob. This "natural
treatment" did not prevent his death. I feel it was Bob's
choice to treat Melanoma as it was treated. It was based on his
religious beliefs. I feel Bob's clinical course or his demise was
due to Bob's choice and the natural course of his illness. In
other words most likely the several physicians who saw him both
in Jamaica and in the USA recommended amputation of his toe, if
not his foot. I cannot say what was going through Bob's mind, nor
was I present, nor did I see the physician's progress notes, but
I feel that, he felt that, through the power of the Most High, he
would persevere and survive this illness, based on the beliefs,
i.e., the Bible, that by not cutting off his foot. He was in
compliance with his religious beliefs and Jah's mission. The
Hasidic Jewish people also believe in having the body being
buried whole. this probably has the same Biblical interpretation.
Q: How plausible is it
that someone injected Bob Marley with Melanoma to cause his
death?
A: I do not know everything about all the underground private,
sector, private funding and clandestine research, but it is
highly implausible that Bob Marley was injected with Melanoma
which caused his death. This is the type of material that science
fiction books are written about.
Of Course, I was not present, so there is always a one in a
billion possibility that this scenario occurred. Besides the
Medical implausibility, the reason I feel so strongly against the
theory that the CIA injected Bob with Malignant Melanoma cells is
that Bob's cells would have fought them off and rejected the
melanoma. To the best of my knowledge Cancer can not be
transmitted by an injection, as opposed to AIDS or other Viral
Syndromes which can be. Based on my knowledge of Immunology, the
body would wall off the offending Antigen and reject it. there
are ways to overcome the rejection process such as Radiation,
Steroids, and other immunotherapy, but this did not occur in
Bob's case. With 1999 DNA knowledge and current immunological
knowledge many medical miracles are possible, but in 1977, this
was highly unlikely.
Q: Did Bob Marley have to
die?
A: There are a few different ways to look at that. The is a
spiritual way, and Medical way. Did Jesus have to die? That's
just the way the scenario played out. It was probably Bob
Marley's decision and the Rastafarian elders belief that
Chemotherapy, amputation, or surgery was not the path to proceed.
In the later stages of his illness, when Bob went to the larger
city Hospitals, it was too late. Bob received radiation and his
dreadlocks fell out. I'm sure the Doctors prepared Bob for this,
as best as they knew how. After this Bob, choose not to stick
with Taditional/Babylon Medicine and that is why he choose not to
stick with traditional Medicine. Bob Went to Germany where he
received coffee enemas and painful injections to no avail. Bob
choose unfortunately (and I cannot legitimately speak for Bob) to
continue living his life. He probably felt significant pain,
physical and emotional, in the later stages of his illness but it
was too late to reverse the Mastastasis.
I do not want to come off as a person who is gaining notoriety
about Bob, but I was approached about my expertise on Bob Marley.
In my professional opinion, early aggressive intervention
probably would have saved his life. If a cancerous Melanoma is
caught in the very early stages, a combination of chemotherapy
and Surgery could be curative. It was Bob's decision not to
follow this path.
To summarize what was said, it was highly unlikely that Bob was
injected with Melanoma that caused his Cancer, and if it was
treated with traditional Medicine, he possibly might still be
alive, but unfortunately, in people of African descent, and Bobs'
particular type of Melanoma the acro (foot) lentiginous type
grows downwards, and it spreads out. (and rapid) One can not
really say how well, Bob would have done if he had an early
amputation.
The nail is hard so the Cancer cannot grow through it.
Q: To reiterate the
question regarding the conspiracy theories of Bob Marley, i.e.,
the CIA, bob chose not to treat the Melanoma traditionally and
that probably cost him his life.
A: Unfortunately, the melanoma did cause Bob Marley his life, but
he did have his work cut out for him, and he consciously chose
that course, to complete his family and his albums and actively
bring Reggae Music and the teaching of Rastafari to the world,
which was actually his mission.
Q: You are a scientist
and a hard core Bob Marley fan. How do you see this entire
matter? Isn't it a waste of talent, and didn't he make these
choices on his own? Indirectly, Bob had a killer in his in his
body and he choose not to get rid of it.
Here is a guy who had
something wrong with him and did not take steps to clear it up,
A. The Melanoma probably was diagnosed a bit late. I do not know
whether the Physician sent off the nail or of the surrounding
tissues for a biopsy. The odds are he did not. If someone saw me
as a Physician, who had a dislodged nail or a toe injury
sustained while playing soccer, and it did not appear normal, a
pathological specimen would be sent to a local pathologist at a
laboratory. Bob was seen in a French Hotel probably by a local
Physician. If the correct treatment and correct diagnosis was
institute immediately, Bob would probably be alive, Unfortunately
for a lot of reasons, such as Religion, Bob's choices, and maybe
professional advise, he is not. I cannot state what was going
through Bob's head, but he probably felt his work, his message,
his culture, his Religious beliefs, took precedence over dealing
with his illness in a traditional fashion.
Q: Do you think the CIA
killed Bob Marley?
A: No, I do not, but they were closely monitoring his activities,
as many others, and saw his potential. The CIA has file on Bob
Marley as previously published but it is essentially impossible
to transmit Melanoma via an injection.
Q: Is there anything out
there that you want the public to know about getting check ups or
anything about Melanoma?
A: I actually addressed this issue twice in the Beat magazine to
Bob's family, and anybody with a suspicious brownish/blackish
lesion should see their Internist, and then be referred to a
Dermatologist if necessary. Another issue I addressed is that
marijuana does not cause Melanoma. Trauma also does not cause
Melanoma.
Q: to sum it up, Bob
Marley did not seek Medical help and died at the age of 36. He
was a loved person and people look for answers, but the truth is
he did not seek Medical help?
A: Bob had his own beliefs, and in the Bible there are some
passages that indirectly say that a knife should not cut a piece
of the body of, and I believe that that was going through his
mind.
Q: Did Bob make his own
choices?
A: Bob had advise from friends and loved ones, but did make his
own choices. I cannot say if Bob realized how serious his illness
was. I also cannot say of he believed he was going to die. He
believed in Jah. (And if he did foresee the future, which he
probably did, He knew it was Jah's way)
Q: As a fan, does it
bother you that this is the way it is?
A: He knew he had to get his message across, and if he didn't
choose this way, we might not have received his last 3 albums. He
perused his work instead of his treatments and thereby spread
Jah's message.
